Norfolk Southern Locomotive Engineer Training Handbook On Property
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OPERATING RULES. THIS BOOK IS THE PROPERTY OF. NORFOLK SOUTHERN. AND ITS RAILROAD SUBSIDIARIES. NORFOLK SOUTHERN. OPERATING RULES. These rules govern operations on the railroad subsidiaries of. Norfolk Southern Corporation. On the effective date, these. Consideration to anything that could adversely affect customer service, compensation for use of railroad property, and risk to railroad operation. The Public Project Engineers are the initial contact for NS and are assigned territories by State (see Appendix A for Project. Engineers and state assignments).
Webmaster's note: Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business. You do the math. Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 December 2017 So Amtrak let's see if you can do the math for a three year old. If Amtrak Joe running the train which would be ONE was training Amtrak Jack which would be ONE ---How many would be in the cab of the Amtrak? The formula is 1 + 1 =?
You sleep with L@N and his momma is why you care? Looking at his comments as JBL he's a raciest woman hater who gets made look stupid all over on many things. Name: Amtrak E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Pines You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2 people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen.
Been using one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars. Your pot shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual.
For the love of God grow up. Name: On to a better life E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 December 2017 Saw the writing on the wall when Eugene and Mr.Ed took over. I got out as things were beginning to go south (Good opportunity presented itself at the perfect time). I looked at the Mainframe a couple times a week until they locked me out. Pure madness how often things were changing on the GL.
Would be interested to see it now. E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Are we all marking off Christmas? Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Such a stand up company CSX is. Forcing their employees to work Christmas Day. There’s a special place in hell for the people that make these decisions. Name: jim E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 December 2017 fuck hunter harrison Name: Amtrak E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Pines You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2 people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen.
Been using one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars.
Your pot shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual. For the love of God grow up. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Dear Retired NS & Conrail, thank you for your blessings to us on CSX.
May you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year as well. We will need it. Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 So do trains have speed limit signs along the tracks?
The >>signs around the curves? I see the dirty Feds are trying to turn the Amtrak tragedy in Washington state as a way to get rid of two person crews PLUS downplay a big part of the lawsuit which will be the missing set of eyes as a 'distraction'. These two in the train cab playing chew the peg or what?
Is this jury tampering 'might of been' even legal on a open investigation? The UTU should be all over this with a class action lawsuit calling them worthless dis-tractors. Kinda reminds me of the L@N clown that hangs here. Just looking at Washington State Amtrak tragedy. Crossing 085839A Google map,-1 off of FRA inventory.
Same graffiti as news coverage on overpass. Fra shows BNSF took over track in January. 0 trains and speed limit of 10 mph. The 10 mph is the only thing they could go by to me. The Google Street view of the curve from the next overpass shows a rotten mess five years ago. How much can a 30 mph flashing sign facing the train cost? Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 to conductor,30+ yrs,21 dec 2017, ref: mean spirited message posted 21 dec 2017 you ask why my message was mean spirited and posted on all boards.ol'eugene was a mean sob that screwed you csx folks over and cn also.
I only spoke the truth. Why is the funeral festivities info quiet? Csx has you folks so job scared it is really sad.hopefully the new ceo will treat you folks better.you folks need ol'eugene's funeral info to line up and piss on his corpse 'precision railroad style'with maximum volume and no wasted time in line.enough said here. Name: Retired NS & Conrail E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 Merry Christmas to all CSX employees.
You have made it through a very tough time. I know the NS employees were worried when Ackman & EHH had their sites on our company. There are many railroaders in the U.S.
And Canada who read this site and have felt your pain since EHH took over. Heres hoping 2018 and beyond is brighter for all of you. Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 DUH Name: E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 December 2017 I don't want to get anyone fired up but I was wondering if other departments are working Christmas holidays, VP of mechanical sent out e mail all mechanical operations will work through the holiday to better serve our customers. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 1st thought of mine is a question: why bombard each & every forum section of this site with the same mean spirited message? Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 ol' eugene now burning in hell and sucking the devil's precision rail and getting devil's old rail up his ass. Ol' eugene getting his karma now.
You guys didn't lose anything at all. Hopefully the new ceo will be better and not run over top of you. I notice no public notice of his funeral or burial/cremation festivities.
Is csx/harrison family afraid someone will steal his corpse and abuse it/mutilate it or piss on it like the george pullman family back in 1898 when the sob george pullman died?george pullman was the hunter harrison of the 1890's to his railcar employees and did them shitty. His casket and vault was put in a wire cage and covered with much concrete to prevent digging up by the pissed of people he done wrong.any thoughts here?
Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 Medicine man Smuggling drugs by rail is a small adventure. Now that you're on track see how easy it is to ship a nuclear war head to any sinding in the U.S.
Or Canada undetected. America is in trouble and the only way to stop it unfortunately is to shut down our boarders which doesn't fit the One World Order scheme. Make America Great Again! If you are corporate you know you can ship anything, anywhere by telephone. Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 December 2017 #1.Why dose CSX lie? #2.Why dose CSX cheat?
#3.Why does CSX treat the employees like dog turds? #4.Why does CSX spike a switch on a spur that hasn't been used in 45 years? #5.Why does CSX not put Kim Bongiaovani in as President? Pinenuts 111 sticks. The best CSX suck hole ever! Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 XLC I worked the road for 34 years before taking a yard assignment on a pusher the last couple years before retiring. Most of guys I knew that made the yard a career hated overtime.
They started working the yard back in the '70s & '80s when you had early quits. Those are gone. I figured if I had to stay at least 7 1/2 hours might as well stay for as much as you can get. Plus having 2 days off a week was a new experience. Sorry to hear they don't double over anymore. But, that was a trick TM's did to not have to report OT to division HQ & JAX. If I didn't work over on a regular assignment they would use us on a temporary assignment job number.
Seemed every time they said 'no OT' before we went to work it happened. Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 I worked in Walbridge Yard in Ohio on the ground back in the '70s. I was stuck on the RR trapped snowed in for 3+ days at the Arrival Yard during the Blizzard of '78 till the National Guard dug us out. We had to ration food for 9 people going into the 2nd day seeing it didn't look like it would ever end.
All that was left was saltine crackers, lucky pipes didn't freeze for water, and plenty of coffee. I know about the cold. Swept many of switches when I was furloughed during the winter to get a few days in. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 December 2017 It's 14% and will go to the hedge fund.
Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 December 2017 CSX gets a 16% tax cut. Will they Hire? Spend it on R&D? Give better raises? Name: MedicineMan E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 Answer these 10 questions: 1. What CSX trains are smuggling drugs? Where do the trains make the transfers of drugs.
What are the train cars / trailers / containers used to smuggle drugs? Who are the CSX drug dealers? Who are the CSX drug users? List the names of everyone you know who does drugs in the yards. Are you are drug user/dealer? What are the names of the Cartels who use CSX for drug transportation? What are the names of the motor cycle gangs who distribute the drugs obtained from CSX trains.
What is your name, address, and phone number so that we can contact you if needed. Please help us prevent the spread of drugs by CSX criminal employees.
Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 December 2017 Maybe since Foote has a background in sales and marketing he will bring back the market share we lost. He should also go off Warren Buffets playbook and open some humps back up and hire like all other class 1 railroads. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 December 2017 If you like over time that's ok.
You must work down south where it's warm. Try coming to buffalo and being forced to work 12 hour days when it's 20° out side wind blowing at 20mph and it's snowing. On top of that sweeping switches of snow, walking in knee deep snow with those heavy anti slip boots.
Then the fuck you with the 20 minute lunches. So basically your out in the cold for about 11 hours. Another classy move is when they ask you ' do you want OT'and you say no and then they force you to stay anyways.i like to see some of these buffalo Yardmaster and trainmaster work the ground for a week and see how it is getting fucked. Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 December 2017 RRjim Not getting a new ticket and 4hr claim any longer, haven't for a few years now. Just forcing jobs to work over on original ticket. Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 20 December 2017 Our sales rep told me CSX has lost hundreds of millions in business, hard to get a handle on just how much volume walked away.
I don't want to be complacent or anything, are we really sure old Eugene really assumed room temperature? Is it verified?Even so, it might be worth while if someone went to check and at least poke him with a stick, we all know Ghouls, Vampires and werewolves have a nasty habit of coming back to life. Best wishes to all of you at CSX, the employees and customers have taken so much abuse from asshole Hunter and his circumcision railroading, his kicking the bucket was a great Christmas present, god bless us one and all.ding dong the which is dead! Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 December 2017 What's wrong with working 12 hour shifts? I liked overtime. Especially on a 5 day yard assignment.
Terminal I worked in if they didn't have anyone on the extra board they would call to see if I wanted to work over. Hell Yeah, another time ticket 4 hours for 8 hours pay at punitive rate. They did that to show no OT. This happened 1-2 times a week. My regular 5 day pusher job it made quite a bit of OT. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 December 2017 They call extra jobs all the time off the extraboard in buffalo.
They cut like 5 yard jobs here in the last few months. Then they call the extra at different times and job symbols. They do that cause I believe if they call a extra everyday for 5 days at the same time and job number they have to put it on as as a regular job. Problem in buffalo nobody wants to work the extraboard, it calls for 6 and we usually only have 2 people on it.they could solve that problem by force assigning Jr employees, but mangers here are lazy and don't want to push the issue with crew management. So what you get is managers bitching they can't fill the jobs and fuck crews everyday to work 12 hours in the cold and snow Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 December 2017 You would think but he makes sure the time is always different. He's got something coming. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 Sounds like something the union should be addressing Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 December 2017 This dick in Louisville calls these jobs of the extraboard all damn week instead of putting them on regular.
Precision scheduling railroading ain't so precision. Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 December 2017 Pinenuts is wanted for RCO interception. Was nutsy in Washington? Yea, smoking pot. Who spiked Pine's nuts? Name: E-mail: Www.enjoyyourretirementuoldpri Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 December 2017 Did anyone else read the article that Hunter contracted a illness the week before his death while doing one of his famous ' You do it my way or you will be fired Hunter Camps' so I bet someone had a cold or something and the old prick caught the cold! My bet is he got a cold and turned into Pneumonia.
The worst thing that can happen to someone who has a lung disease and on oxygen is getting pneumonia.i wonder if the person who gave it to Hunter infected him on purpose!!! If he did do it on purpose we should erect a statute of this manager sneazing on a statue of hunter (of course the statue would have his oxygen tank),and we make the day he died a csx holiday!!!
Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 December 2017 Conductor 10-20 They were micro managing before I retired in 2010. Last 2 years I worked a pusher job that they used for switching etc. When there was no trains to shove. One afternoon we had to switch out a few tracks for a local. A TM came out screwing with the ground crew.
I got off the locomotive went back to see what was happening. He was telling them how to switch. Seeing the conductor only had a little more than a year plus a conductor trainee he had them flustered. We had a job briefing it would take 1 1/2 hours or so to get it done. The TM's way it would of been 4-6 hours. After he left I told them let's do it his way.
It'll never get finished. Let them micro manage.
Everyday we got to work it was no overtime. I made OT just about everyday. If I would of known I could make 60+ hours in a 5 day week in the yard I would of left the road years ago. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 I'll tell you how to protect a shove on tracks that are not coupled up. Give him exactly what he wants.
While you're doing it sit there and ask yourself why managers that don't have experience on the ground tell us to do things a specific way? Why can't they just say grab this cut of car and a switch list and go to work? When I take a shit, I know that I have to wipe my ass and I know how to do it. There are at least 6 ways to wipe your ass and they all work.
I can go front to back, back to front, sitting down, standing up, with a combination of toilet paper and wet wipes, and last but not least my favorite, circular motion. We don't need managers to tell us a specific way to railroad when there are a lot of ways that all work. Why not let us pick what works for us and leave us alone? They like to micro manage us, so give them what they want and when it fails maybe their superiors will start to question them. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 The superintendent in Louisville must be stupid. When needed he wants an rco job to drive to the north end of the bowl tracts to protect the shove. These tracks aren't coupled up.
How do you protect a shove on a track that's not coupled up. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 December 2017 today's Wall Street Journal (MONDAY 12-18-017) has several articles related to EHH and his lack of a pre employment physical. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 What happen with tm Raine and clerk Sue? Where they boning?
Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 We want Ward back Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 The Amtrak train that derailed in Washington was going 80 mph in a 30 mph curve. Its ok though, the conductor in the third car was qualified even if the engineer wasn't. Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 Pinenuts is a complicated CSX retred.
Intermodal is going down. Boxcars or nothing. Learn to offload/onload from the side.
Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 Covered @ 51.42. Sure wish I knew his condition on thursday.
I'll look for more opportunities. Name: Captain Crunch Berries E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Well I guess what they need to do is put old HH in an old MOW gondola and have him tour around csx properties so everyone can pay their respect to him and when he starts smelling funny fill up the gon with dirt and have Jack Vierling store the car somewhere never to be seen again would that be considered a load or empty oh well. Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 CSX withheld information on EHH's health form investors. Someone needs to go to prison for this. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 To all the wall street bankers and investors.
I guess you wont be cashing out millions after all. You all seen how Hunter took CP stock and Quadrupled it and made millionaires out of alot of people and you scumbags wanted to get in on it. Guess what cash out your tens of thousands of dollars and go ruinother people's lives,leave us csx employees alone. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 I guess I gotta buy a round trip plane tickets to Florida now, cause i always said i piss on his grave when he droped dead.i wonder How many Hunter haters will show up to his wake and funeral to tell all the people there to Mourning his death what a rotten prick he was. Name: not fooled E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 NUMBUTT Last post from poser pines(pinenuts)didn't have damn thing in it about intermodal. All about the investors.
So go take your bull crap distraction attempt back to the csx rock you crawled out of and tell them you failed. I wonder what test failure you will get for this one! The king is gone and everyone hated him. So get over it. The people will tell it how it is and post what's happening. Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 Intermodal is one boxcar on the back of a truck. Pinenuts says.
Name: GD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Other Before you post why don't you try googling the rules for flying a flag at half staff. The private sector, business or not can chose to fly their flags at half staff to honor someone they feel was a leader, highly respected mentor, etc.
Not saying the flag should be lowered for one of the most hated man in RR history as far as I know but you need to educate yourself before you try to file a complaint and look like an idiot. Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 Premarket order In short 1,000 shares @ 52.15 Lets see what happens Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 WTF I didn't say not to sell your CSX stock.
Only thing I said was people shouldn't wish for a massive sell off. Better yet that Mantle Ridge doesn't pull their investment. I sold mine in increments this year after nearly 30 years of investing in CSX. I'm retired and decided to look for better dividend stocks. CSX in the $50s @ $.20 a share wasn't getting it.
It was a difficult thing to sell something you've owned for nearly 30 years. At my age income growth seems more important. Get that extra money to travel etc. Without touching the original investment. Name: Stand E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Just got called to work at my terminal. Flags at half staff.
I went out and raised them back up. Let’s see what happens now.
Name: Hugh Jorgan E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Mr. Ed You've been quiet this weekend. I was wondering how things were going around the barn yard? Do you plan to advise mr.foot with your vast knowledge of railroading? Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Reverse hump operations are dangerous all over the system not just Louisville.
Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 The puppet master is gone, will James Foote be the new puppet master or a true CEO. Will our trainmasters continue to be puppets? Looks like Louisville will be the terminal that sets the example by the way it sounds, lets hope system wide everyone else will sack up and do the same. Keep us updated. Name: Stand your ground Louisville E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 The superintendent at the Osborn Yard is as big of a chump as anyone on the system, when he left the last place he was at the employees busted out all of his windows. This 3 foot 8 inch chump is a snake and ain't worth the dirt I piss on. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 The superintendent in Louisville has been forewarned of those concerns and has refused to address them.
Name: Hunter's Grave E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Question: Who's pissing on Hunter's grave? Seriously, I've seen many posts in reference to this. There should be a long line, judging from recent posts. I'll go first! You all can follow. I challenge all, to really saturate that grave site (probably in Florida), with piss!!!!!!!!! Please post grave site, if you know.
Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 This is no joke, are they blaming the crew or the CEO for making us completely change the way we work with no one ever teaching proper technique or having a single class about how we should do things under PSR? Wait I already know the answer, it's always the crews fault not the dumb as shit operating procedures that were forced on us. Name: This is no joke E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 This is no joke the flag at the hump tower in louisville was and probably still is at half staff, saw it with my own eyes. As far as respecting local managers, theres no way you can even give them the benefit of doubt when they have us working with a operations plan that has no rules or procedures, i.e. Kicking cars at one end of the bowl (3500 ft.
Tracks max) while another pulling job triple or quadruples 80 ro 90 racks at the other end.we do it everyday like sheep, trying to keep up so rhey keep.the doors open hopeing nothing happens. Well yesterday somrhing did, we r damn luckey one of our own wasnt killed last night he bailed off 100 feet before the hopper he was rideing tipped, 3 employees are out of service all because.well youguys tell me Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 HA, there is no fee for these transactions, I have bought and sold CSX stock several times through Empower Retirement which is what about 90% of CSX employees have. Name: HA E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 WTF How much is the broker fee for selling your stock. What is the fee for buying it?????? How much will you lose to sell as verses just sitting on it and letting it come back up?
Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 flip the csx flag upside down, universal sigh of distress Name: hey you E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Everybody mark off bereavement for Christmas. Our condolences for our fallen leader.
WO KO Name: Ben Dover E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Here's your answer! Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Only the president or governor can order that. Someone should call the local news. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Surely someone is joking saying the flag is at half-mast in Louisville. If that is true then I have no idea how anyone there could respect management or take the seriously. Name: Combat vet E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 It could not be any more disrespectful to the men and women that deserve our flag flown at half mast. Hunter Harrison has done absolutely nothing for this country to deserve the honor of the U.S.
Flag flown at half mast. At least 90% of CSX employees hate this guy, we should not honor a guy that damn near destroyed our company. Any flag flown at half mast for Harrison should be burned and replaced with an untainted new flag. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 Yeah, maybe. But 80% or more of managers are awful too.
Can have hassles/issues/problems with good leaders for a variety of reasons. Been that way for a long, long time.
That will probably never change. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Trainmasters post under courteous and professionalism, please read it.
He is absolutely right about at least 20% of us. There are plenty of us very undeserving of our job and don't even earn their check. Trainmasters like this guy actually distinguishes between shit employees and good employees vs treating everyone as a warm body to move cars. Everyone is different and should be treated accordingly to how you act at work. I like this trainmaster, whoever it is. I would say he treats his good employees good and in turn they treat him good. Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Pay raises are in place back pay by Jan 31st.
New system notice. Name: This guy E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 December 2017 The flags at osborn yard are at half mast today, just thought everybody would think that was as funny as i did. WTF Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 You have to love the line in the CSX statement 'The entire CSX family mourns this loss.' 1/10 of 1/100 of the CSX family mourns. That's around 30 people. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 HH is gone! CSX Transportation Employees morale is at the bottom of the barrel!
Hopefully the Board of Directors look long and hard for a CEO that is more Customer and Employee Friendly and not, 'My Way or The Highway Mentality!' Merry Christmas to all!! And hopefully a better New Year ahead! I cant help but thing of the Wizard of Oz, 'Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is dead' Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 That's right co 10-20. I couldn't have said it better myself!
They all want to make their money back, and this will shake up the board a bit. It should be a turning point for the ones that know it wasn't working. Even the cp and can guys he brought on. They might not feel the same without uncle hunters intimidation. Think about it. These guys aren't his friends.
They are just more guys that lived through his intimidation at previous rrs. He probably belittled every one of them dozens of times.
They were doing what he said because they wanted to impress him, and thought they'd get on his good side. Do you think he would have brought them if he didn't have someone he wanted to replace? He just knew they were more obedient, and that's why the others had to go! They weren't Hunter rules compliant. Also correct as to what we have to do now.
There's going to be a lull in operating decisions at first, and that's when we need to band together and let the Hunter managers know now, that the old style railroaders are still here. That they might not want to tangle with wounded t&e brothers. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 I'm really hoping everyone is on board with this.
It is time to set our future in our favor. I wouldn't call it bullying, I would say it's just letting everyone know it's our railroad. They don't have anything without us. Let these managers know we're in charge. Tell all your coworkers, get the word out quick!
Lets go brothers! Knock em back a peg while the new plan is developing. I think it's safe to say that the investors might see that things aren't exactly working out, and there's no 'railroading icon' to offend to sway their opinions. It's clearly a day of saying, man, maybe this was a stupid plan, let's make our money back. I believe by Summer, there will be an entirely different agenda, and maybe Foote will make a name for himself by turning things around instead of this psrr failure.
Name: LOCO E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Whatever intimidation tactics you managers learned at Hunter Camp you better forget or there will be major problems. We are in position to take it all back. We out number you and we outsmart you. There are not enough of you to run the railroad even if you knew how.
Name: WTF E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Read what the guy listed as 'Suckers' wrote, this guy knows what he is talking about, just wait and see. His prediction it spot on or very close to what will happen.
Name: WTF E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 This is to the guy that thinks he is investor savvy and calling everyone morons. You sir are an idiot!
It takes about 48 hours to buy or sell a stock depending on what day of the week it is. If you have 100 shares right now and the stock price is $54.00 and you keep it knowing it will drop to $44.00 because you are in it for the long haul and you know it will bounce back then you are an idiot! Why not sell at $54.00 wait till it hits $44.00 then buy it back? You are such an idiot on this topic, please don't give advice to anyone about investing you moron! My God how can someone be this stupid?
To RRJIM, this part is for you, why are we cutting off our own feet by selling? Should we keep our money in CSX stock knowing it will fail, knowing we will loose our retirement? Why to help CSX stay afloat? Let it fail please, we can all buy back in at record lows and ride the return back to the top. If CSX stock tanks then there would be investors lined up to take over and bring it back to life buy undoing everything from the past year. CSX is an excellent candidate now for a turn around, all that has to be done is revert back to Michael Wards operating plan, or anything similar that involves actually getting and keeping customers. RRJIM, the other guy gets the idiot of the year award but you are a very close runner up.
Name: Reality Check E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 HH said.' I'll eat the spaghetti'!
Looks like he choked on it. Star Ccm Download Mac on this page. Failure as a lasting legacy to an arrogant asshole is Karma at its finest.
Over 300 million to a dead man creeping hopefully will be taught in business schools as one of the dumbest stupidass decisions of all times. Ed Kelly, go find your balls and tell Foote and the rest of the Hunterasslickers to throw that PSRR HORSESHIT in the trash and unfuck this mess or they can go back to CN or CP where they came from and worship at the altar of a man burning in Hell right now. Wick Moorman just retired from Amtrak. He knows how to run a bowl of spaghetti. His successor and NS are doing just fine. The only part of PSRR that worked was sending business to the competition. Hacking Exposed 7th Edition Pdf Torrent on this page.
CSX employees and customers have had enough of HHs 'guru legacy'. I hope HHs last words as the Grim Reaper put his arm around him was, 'I FAILED'!! Name: seasoned E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 New day You must be a new guy. If you weren't then you know the company has been doing this for years before EHH ever came around. They always find a way to cut ex boards and pools and keep people off the payroll any chance they get especially around the holidays. If you pay attention to the pattern over the years you would see that.
They will cut the extra board and then let the guys who are bumped and cant hold a spot sit there and rot until they decide to create a spot for them. They will make sure they are not available the day before, of or after the holiday so they cant claim holiday pay. They always expect guys to lay off for the holidays so they know they can use a few as they need them. They also know the industries lay in on Christmas holiday and some on New years so they aren't worried about being a few days behind on deliveries.
A lot of industries close down for inventory time at the end of the year to get ready for taxes. They have been doing this for years. They always chop the boards when winter starts. This is nothing new. Every single furloughed guy was called back that was in the greatlakes division.
They came back or they didn't answer their letters or phones. Some moved and didn't leave a forwarding address. Not siding with what EHH did across the system but the manpower shortage this year would have happened anyway.
CSX does this every stinking year as soon as Thanksgiving hits! Screw men out of holiday pay. Make them work one day around Christmas but never enough to get holiday pay. The only thing that ever brings everyone back is a blizzard. Name: Invest E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 MORONS What the hell is wrong with you people.
You obviously don't know a thing about investing or the stock markets. The stock will drop because of fear and stupidity with henny penny. The sky is falling. The sky is falling. What you don't know will hurt the idiots that dump! It will never fall below what is was before EHH came in.
It will stable out sooner than you think. Those of you who invest for the long haul and don't play penny stocks know this. Its the idiots that don't know a thing about playing the long haul game.
Don't listen to these idiots. Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 My condolences to Mr.
Harrisons family. Anyone wanting the stock to crash with massive sell offs is cutting off their own foot. Investors give corporations a cash lifeline. What happens now? Mantle Ridge pulling out the $1 billion it invested? Stock could get cut in half. I sold all my CSX stock which I've bought & owned for decades while working this year at a healthy profit.
I'd buy back in if hits back in the $20's & '$30s. Mike Wards people are gone. I don't know anything about Foote. Today there's no CEO on CSX. The BOD could appoint Foote as acting CEO till they make a decision.
It's a wait & see. Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Being stock stupid how does Mantle Ridge have only 106 shares one day then click on Mantle Ridge and in the billions the next day which included sale of stock.Did EXHH pay for 300,000 shares or railroads pay a year ahead? Where does one find the copy of these ponzi checks? Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Hunter is dead!! Rot in hell scumbag Name: ADVICE for Mr. Foote E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 Mr.
Foote, Please take the time to check out what everyone is saying about your late friend Hunter on social media. Despite your rosy memories of Ewing, He is/was a VERY HATED man. A lot of the job cuts he made went way beyond what was necessary, a lot of the changes he made were out of malevolence against the working men, and the unions. He had very little regard for the personal harm he caused for so many people, communities, and even our very own customers. I urge you not to follow his path, but instead to be a voice of reason and compassion when dealing with the employees that make this company successful. An army divided is doomed to failure.
But a company that is united can form a great empire! Name: Ben Dover E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Never ever bet on a half dead horse to win the race! Never bet against Karma! She never has lost a race!
Never use intimidation against your players to get them to play better ball! Pissing off your players that add value to your team will not work in the long run.
Never sell your sole to the devil for a dollar!(Henchmen) If PSR was such a great operating plan then why aren't all the other Class 1 railroads doing it? It doesn't take a genius to do what EHH did. As a matter of fact it doesn't even take a heart! If I were a betting man I'd say EHH was dead before they ever made the announcement of his leave Thursday.
Just a little tactical move to save face. I'll bet SHTF this next week!
God Save CSX!!! Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Harrison’s name carried the premium him and hilal mantle ridge have been together a long time with cp and csx Now he has to trust Foote someone he’s only known a month with billions of investor money on the line investors will be spooked customers still not happy winter is here employees will push back the place will be in turmoil this stock goes to 0. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 If they work us Christmas they will see push-back like never before. Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Gona try shorting this stock in pre-market Monday IF I can catch this falling knife BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAA. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Lets make national news gentleman! We know what to do, it starts tonight.
Make sure you dump all stock by Monday because it will keep plummeting. If you haven't yet then you already lost big, don't expect to regain it get out before you lose it all. If you have FMLA use it, if you have dailies or personal days use them, if you can mark of sick and not move up a step in caps then do it.
If you have to be at work then be 100% rules compliant to see how much gets done. Don't help out any other crews, definitely don't do the work of another craft especially bleeding cars off it is not your job to be a conductor and a carman, they don't pay you to be a carman. Report and damaged cars that have to be sent to the shop, don't just let them ride.
If a draw bar is to hard to move because it hasn't been greased since April then don't move it, get help. Name: na E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 Finra Your absolutely right. He was on life support at the time of the announcement.
Everyone in management in the yard new about it. Name: TMAN E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 December 2017 There is absolutely no better time than now to take our railroad back! If you want what we lost back now is our chance. Remember when the managers actually respected us and would damn near beg us to get the work done? Remember when they would give out thanks awards if we got the work caught up?
They bought food on occasion. Remember quits and free boots?
Remember when we had the upper hand and they knew it so they were not jackasses that constantly threatened us. Remember when you could show up to work and do your job and your job alone without being watched and harassed. Remember when we could be inside the cab of a moving locomotive when it was 20 degrees or raining or sunny and 75?
Remember when we showed up to work and wasn't rushed out of the locker room within 5 minutes of our on duty time and when minutes came we got an actual lunch break, not a short 20 minutes and then they were calling and harassing us? We worked a lot of 6 hour days and got more done with way less effort before, we also had almost twice as many customers and almost twice the amount of work.
Name: Push back E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 It's time we make a point, and quick. These managers need a heavy dose of intimidation to put the power where it belongs. We're running this show. Show em things changed now that Hitler Harrison shit the bed! Turn them f#*!in tables, push back, get the message across like real railroaders used to do!
A dozen sliced hoses, a disabled trainmaster truck, maybe see a manager outside of work and make a point, maybe we can be the ones in the weeds when they're out in the field. Let's adjust some attitudes. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Brevement unavailabile for grandparents and aunts but now available for uncles.
How you going to mark off dead on payday weekend? After they bury uncle hunter can we start unburying our engines and cars out of storage so we can move freight? Name: Dman E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 I agree lets take it back, take a stand, nows the time, stability is shaky, and managers that have been harassed can be swayed, its worth a shot the all powerful oz is no more, just a man behide a curtain.
Name: Finra E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 I'd wager the old man was dead or on life support when they announced his 'medical leave.' That way they could stagger the hit to the stock and buy mantle ridge, or at least certain individuals, a trading day to bail on their shares before they pulled the plug on HH. The timing of his death/incapacitation, the announcement of his 'leave,' and certain share sales are worthy of investigation. Name: Nip It E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 To all of the shareholders that voted to bring HH in: I sincerely hope that you're feeling like like the IDIOTS that you truly are.
384 million for less than a years worth of work is a lot of money, but I'm sure you IDIOTS probably think that it was worth it. Whatever it takes to rationalize your greed, go for it.
I hope you lose your azz on the decision you've made. Now, go back to your villages. Name: Dwight Shrute E-mail: dwhite@yahoo.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hunter is DEAD! The man who only thought of his bonus and the shareholders all the while screwing over thousands of Brothers and Sisters industry wide. Enjoy your dirt nap you old geezer. You gonna spend your cash on the other side?
Don't forget your nasal cannula. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Now you’ll really see the stock plummet look out below Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 I believe this is applicable right now. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! Name: Bye you sob E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 HH IS DEAD!!!!!!! Name: Monty Burns E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Do you anti-union guys really think that without unions the railroads would compete for workers with higher wages and benefits? You are fools.
There are only a few class one railroads. They would colude with each other to keep wages low. These CEOs and hedge funds that own all industries only care about the bottom line. There is no competition, only the same puppet masters pulling different strings. Name: The Wizard E-mail: kickthedog Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Hunter is DEAD!! All you managers hired by Hunter from CN/CP better get out of dodge. You gonna be hunted down by all the other local managers and employees you tried to bully!
Your days are numbered! All you idiots that keep talking shit about the union are a joke. YOU ARE THE UNION!! If you dont like it make it better otherwise shut your traps. A new day approaches!!! Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Trains magazine is reportedly saying Harrison has died Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Unions prevent employers from firing lousy workers Unions make sure we are all paid the same so the most productive employee makes no more than the least productive.
This is a problem because it takes the incentive of working hard out. If Sally picks 900 apples a day and Dave picks 200 apples a day then Sally should make a little more per hour, when Dave sees that Sally got a raise the Dave starts to pick more apples to try and get a raise. Sally continues to work hard everyday and one day a supervisor retires so Sally is offer the position, now Dave is upset that he wasn't offered the job and he resents Sally (his new supervisor) Dave out of spite starts damaging apples and only picking 200 apples a day again. Sally fires Dave for being a dipshit! Sally hires a new employee that is a good worker and deserving of the job. The new guy, Bill picks 900 apples a day and gets top pay, all the other workers want top pay so they pick 900 apples a day, now production is at an all time high and they can supply more customers so the business grows and grows and hires and hires. One day a hedge fund is interested in the apple business, it plants a new CEO to implement precision apple picking.
The new CEO turns out to be bananas and goes ape shi* trying to turn around the business by selling all the equipment and closing up orchards. The remaining orchards over time become less and less profitable as employee morale slips. Bill (the new guy that Sally hired) has lost all motivation and starts picking bananas, Sally fires Bill for picking bananas. CSX hears about some idiot working at an apple orchard picking bananas and decides hey that guy would make an excellent Trainmaster. Bill now works at CSX. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Retired Now's posted words are correct.
The post from Other, non-employee, for N/A - can be picked apart line by line & that person ought to do a heck of a lot of research & studying. Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 To RR JIM A lot of employers offer part time and that is a good thing because people sometimes need to go to school or be a mom or dad etc. Some people can't or don't want to work full time. The jobs you are talking about are generally what high school graduates that are just starting out in life take, they are not intended to be careers. If a company offers part time positions would it be fair to give them all the benefits as a full time employee? If part timers got all that then the full timers would want more because they are full time. Economics lesson 1: If Amazon, Walmart, and Sam's Club paid 17 an hour and offered all the benefits you listed then who in the hell would hang on to the back of a garbage truck in the cold and rain for 18-20 an hour?
Who would go obtain $60,000 in college debt and spent 4 years to get a degree to become a mechanic to make 45k a year? Who would work at the railroad? If I could work at Walmart for 17 an hour with full benefits I would be there today.
The list goes on man. If the pay and benefits were great for these jobs then you would pay a lot more for groceries, furniture, clothing, etc. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Yeah, A lot of employers today hire part-timers working them just enough to keep them at part-time status not having to pay for healthcare, vacation pay etc. Amazon, Sam's Club, Walmart etc. It was unions that fought & won vacation days, healthcare, pensions etc.
But once people started believing they didn't need unions by the 90s it all came crashing down. Pensions were replaced with crappy voluntary 401K's subjected to the whim of the stock market, healthcare replaced with voluntary group policies, the list goes on. Most corporations don't pay for any employee benefits anymore.
But, great that employee saved $100 a month by not paying union dues. Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Members' dues cannot be used for political campaign contributions. Only Unions' PAC monies, voluntary donations from members, are used for that purpose. [These donations are in addition to dues payments.] Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 Plenty of non union jobs get paid vacation Plenty of non union jobs get personal days You choose if you want dailies or straight weeks so it's not like you're getting paid vacation and in addition daily vacation days Any company that requires travel will pay for your lodging Detention time, ok but would we not have it if it weren't for the unions? Annulment pay is good, not too many non union workers get annulled so that's probably why they don't have annulment pay Unions have absolutely zero to do with government regulations The union doesn't get you back when you are fired- the railroad is the only place that I know of where employees are fired on a regular basis, it is set up this way to keep everyone under the company thumb, they know you will probably get back and they want you to come back.
Most employees have a mishap in their 2-5 year mark if they fired everyone when they got in trouble there would be almost no one with more than 5 years of seniority, basically everyone on the railroad would be a new guy. The cost to replace 90% of the employees every 5 years would cripple the railroad so there is no way they could operate like that. Trip rate deadheads, ok good Not sure about non union jobs getting insurance 60-65 after 30 CSX does not match 401k who told you this? Plenty of non union jobs do have a company match 401k Stock award is nice if you earn it which is not easy to do, plenty of non union jobs have company stock options and also profit sharing Now with every perk listed that you think the union got us, imagine if we were non union. Do you think we wouldn't have these perks? Without these who in the hell would put up with the lifestyle of working for the railroad? The railroad could not retain employees without these things.
Would you apply to work at the railroad without any of this? Companies have to offer a decent enough employment package to be able to hire and retain employees.
Now prepare to have your balls blown off. You are in the same union as a lot of other employees that work for other railroads, they have very similar contracts because of the unions. Imagine if there were no unions and each company made their own agreements, in this scenario railroads would actually have to compete for employees. If railroad A, B, and C are hiring and you are looking for work then you would choose the one that has the best benefits right, well if that were railroad A then most people would try to work there. Now Railroad B and C have to offer better incentives to get employees hired and to retain them. I can go on but I think you can figure out how it moves forward from there. I left out holiday pay earlier, plenty of non union jobs get holiday pay but they don't have to submit a claim that will likely get denied due to insufficient information or improper agreement.
The way a lot of non union jobs do their holidays is they are just off for the holiday and they get 8 hrs pay. Funny how you conductors like to stand on the nose in the cold and rain, it's always sunny and 75 in the cab Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 I apologize to everyone on here. If someone would of explained the changes with the current SSA I would of understood. Thankfully someone finally did.
It's easy today for all of us to get nasty with one another. I regret that it did. I sincerely mean it. Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 LC Thank you for the explanation.
I guess a lot has changed in the 7 years since I retired. It was confusing especially when the BLE states CSX (H&W only). I still get all correspondence from the BLE-T. I even got a ballot to vote on the national contract seeing I'm a BLE-T lifetime member. I didn't vote that's not my decision anymore. People can say the unions aren't doing anything. After retirement I worked as an outside contractor through a local Manpower for a shortline railroad for 4 1/2 years leasing CSX track that I once ran from 1984-1999.
They're a non-union railroad. There employees make $15-$18 an hour overtime after 40 hours no benefits. They have a group healthcare policy they can join at 100% their expense. The truth became known to me that as an outside contractor doing flagging work for outside contractors like VDOT, fiber optics etc. I made more per hour than they did. That's what a non-union railroad would look like. It's troubling to read people on here thinking they would be better off without a union.
CSX and the other railroads would like to get rid of MOW, Signal Department etc. Hiring outside contractors. One man only on trains is being threatened. The unions are fighting these battles. The national was able to freeze the healthcare premium at current level that covers the employee & family.
Railroads wanted $750 a month for just the employee another $750 to cover the family. They managed to secure wage increases better than most in this country. The list goes on. Now Railroad Retirement is being threatened by the Republican tax bill.